Monday, August 28, 2006

Another Sproul Family Scandal

Tim Dick Ligonier MinistriesUpdate: For a more current RC Sproul Jr scandal see RC Sproul Jr's Ashley Madison Scandal

Update #2: For the latest RC Sproul Jr scandal see RC Sproul Jr Arrested for Drunk Driving with Minor in Car, Charged with Multiple Felonies

On August 25 I received an email from Ligonier Ministries CEO Tim Dick. All it said was:
From: Tim Dick Mailed-By:
Date: Aug 25, 2006 11:46 PM

You my friend are sick, seek help, we will pray for you.

Tim Dick

I responded with:
From: R.C. 2.0 Mailed-By:
To: Tim Dick
Date: Aug 27, 2006 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: You my friend are sick, seek help, we will pray for you.

Mr. Tim Dick as in the CEO of Ligonier Ministries?

Wow! What an honor! What brings you to my little corner of blogdom?

I saw some of your communications with Frank Vance. Pretty wild stuff there Tim! And you call me the sick one? How did you ever manage snagging the CEO slot at Ligonier?

RC Sproul Tim Dick Ligonier MinistriesYou'd think that Tim Dick would have learned his lesson after everything that's happened to him over picking a fight with Frank Vance. Now the guy's trying to provoke me too? Not one single time have I mentioned the name "Tim Dick" on my blog. So what's his interest in provoking a fight with me now?

Frank Vance has said that Tim Dick is a paranoid moron and obviously doesn't have enough going on to keep himself busy as CEO of Ligonier. The guy is pulling down a monstrous salary ($250,000/yr) but instead of working for his huge donor-supported salary he spends his days posting weird comments on numerous blogs and insulting people via email who've never even mentioned him.

Well now it looks like Frank is going to keep Tim's hands full for awhile, which I really appreciate, because I don't particularly want to waste my time on the guy. But I will repost part of something that Frank just put up today because it's in the public interest to know, and we're all about fulfilling the public's right to know.

Another Sproul family scandal has just surfaced. Thankfully this Sproul scandal doesn't involve RC Sproul Jr (whew!). We were ready for a change of pace anyway. Variety is the spice of life, and if it involves the dysfunctional Sproul family it's bound to get spicy.

Ryan Sproul Dick Ligonier MinistriesThis latest Sproul scandal involves RC Sproul Sr's son-in-law and CEO/President of Ligonier Ministries, Tim Dick. Tim Dick also happens to be the father of Ryan Sproul-Dick (aka "Partyboy"), the "Heir of Ligonier Ministries." Partyboy is also Ligonier Ministries' conference coordinator.

It's being alleged that two years ago Tim Dick ripped off Dr. Don Kistler in Ligonier's "acquisition" of Soli Deo Gloria Ministries. Apparently Tim Dick switched out the contracts at the last minute.
On 22 September 2004 Ligonier Ministries, the ministry of Reformed theologian Dr. RC Sproul acquired Soli Deo Gloria Ministries, the ministry of Dr. Donald Kistler. Soli Deo Gloria was a 501(c)(3) charitable organization, as was and is Ligonier Ministries. As such Soli Deo Gloria was "acquired," not purchased. *

Of the acquisition Dr. Kistler originally stated, "I cut my teeth on the Puritans studying under Dr. R.C. Sproul, and to work under him is a dream come true. I look forward to many years of fruitful ministry together, exposing people to the holy God the Puritans knew and served." However Dr. Kistler's "dream come true" soon proved to be a nightmare.

What few if any people knew at the time, and what Don Kistler certainly didn't realize at the time, is that Ligonier President Tim Dick had perpetrated a grand fraud. The fraud against Dr. Kistler is of such an ugly and shameful nature that of the small number of people that have since discovered it no one has been willing in the two ensuing years to confront it, let alone expose it. Allowing two years to lapse hasn't improved upon Dr. Kistler's prospects for recovering what was stolen from him, quite the opposite.

Dr. Kistler's ministry was stolen from him by, quite literally, nothing more than a cheesy sleight of hand trick. After weeks of contract negotiations a final version of the contract was agreed upon by all parties. However, when it came time for the signing of the final contract, unbeknownst to Don Kislter, Tim Dick secretly switched contracts. The textual difference in that switched contract was small enough to have easily escaped the notice of everyone, yet the implications for Don Kisler were immense.

Contained in the mutually approved contract was a reversionary clause, meaning that at any time Don Kistler could exercise his right to reclaim full control of his ministry, with or without cause, and with no penalty or cost to himself. In the contract that Tim Dick surreptitiously switched at the signing ceremony that clause had been removed. The practical effect of Tim Dick's fraud meant that Dr. Kistler had his ministry stolen from him.

For the complete story see Ligonier Ministries Defrauds Soli Deo Gloria Ministries In "Acquisition"

This is one ugly scandal. If RC Sproul Sr. manages this scandal anything like the way that he attempted to "clear RC Sproul Jr's name" don't count on anyone repenting. All we're likely to hear is a bunch of lies and spin.

UPDATE: Some new photos of Timothy A. Dick, or rather, "mugshots" courtesy of Seminole County, Florida law enforcement from his criminal activities and two separate arrest incidents. Charges include:
  • Burglary
  • Aggravated Assault with a weapon
  • Criminal Mischief
  • Stalking 
Tim Dick arrested

Tim Dick mugshot

Tim Dick arrest photo

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At 9:51 PM, Blogger Carson Allen said...

You know now Tim Dick probably thinks about these blogs everyday. I'll bet he checks thest post's every night.

Gee; I wonder if he has said anything to Dr.Srpoul? What Would Srpoul think if he knew his jack ass son-in-law was posting to blogs.

Bettery yet; why dosen't Sproul come out of his Ivory Tower and post something himself. He could realy clear up a few things if he has nothing to hide.

Does he not care about someone like me who practicley used to worship the ground he walks on. Guess not.

At 10:49 AM, Blogger RC 2.0 said...

One of the major problems with these big name preachers is that the more popular they get and the more money they get paid the more they tend to disconnect from their ministries. That suits their Presidents and CEOs and Board Of Directors just fine because it gives them more say in the operations to do whatever they want without inference from the preacher.

In Sproul's case what they're probably telling him is, "Now RC, you know you're no good at this corporate business marketing admin fundraising conference-planning stuff. Your gifts are in preaching and teaching. Don't concern yourself with what goes on here in the office. It'll just stress you out. In fact you just ought to stay home and work from there. This place is just a distraction for you."

I'd say it's doubtful that Sproul has any idea what Tim Dick is now up to and he may not know anything about what Frank Vance has just exposed. If his fellow preacher friends, like John McArthur and Ligon Duncan and John Piper and Al Mohler care anything for him they'll sit him down and have a talk with him. But after the way he publicly responded to the defrocking of RC Jr his preacher friends already know what kind of response they'll get over this Soli Deo Gloria fraud. It wouldn't surprise me if no one says a thing to Sproul.

At 9:43 PM, Anonymous Charles said...

What a shame. People are watching them all to see if they practice what they preach. All of them. We are no better than the Emergents, Seekers, etc. to turn a blind eye to this.

You watch. Because it is a friend of theirs, they will accuse the bloggers of gossip.

At 12:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has anyone told you how unChristian you come across in attacking these men? IT'S NOT YOUR FIGHT. You're just shovelling the manure. And to approve the comment from Carson Allen with the insulting j-a reference? When's the last time you read the portions of the Bible that refer to living at peace with all men? BTW, I'm not anyone involved with the situation and I don't know much about it. All I know is you're one bitter brother with a massive case of chip on shoulder.

At 2:27 PM, Blogger RC 2.0 said...

Carson is factually correct when he says that Tim Dick is a jack ass. Do you disagree with that factual statement? If so why?

I think the whole world can now plainly see what a jackass Tim Dick really is now that he and Ligonier Ministries have sued Christian blogger Frank Vance. Because of Ligonier's former good reputation with the public very few people personally knew what a jackass Tim Dick was. Carson was one of those rare exceptions. But now there's just no excuse for your ignorance Anonymous. I think you owe Carson an apology.

Is this more evidence of your keen logic Anonymous?: "I'm not anyone involved with the situation and I don't know much about it. All I know is you're one bitter brother with a massive case of chip on shoulder."

I don't know you and "I don't know much about it."
I don't like what you say.
Therefore you must be bitter.

At 11:03 AM, Blogger John Steinhausen said...

Jen Epstein has written some excellent articles about this Ligonier Ministries lawsuit. Now Jen has posted some Open Letters on her blog. Everyone who's concerned about the obvious shame and embarrassment that this Ligonier Ministries lawsuit will bring upon the Christian community should copy and paste them and mail them to Ligonier.

Open Letter to Dr. Sproul,
Open Letter to Vesta Sproul and the Board of Directors
Open Letter to Tim Dick.
Contending With Ligonier Ministries.

At 3:33 PM, Anonymous Keep it in the family said...

rc 2.0: "I'd say it's doubtful that Sproul has any idea what Tim Dick is now up to and he may not know anything about what Frank Vance has just exposed. If his fellow preacher friends, like John McArthur and Ligon Duncan and John Piper and Al Mohler care anything for him they'll sit him down and have a talk with him."

You don't mean Ligon Duncan, the brother of John Duncan, who gets paid big bucks as Tim Dick's right hand cover-up man at Ligonier, do you? You know, the brother of Mel Duncan, who also works for Ligonier?

At 5:52 PM, Anonymous This just keeps getting bigger and bigger said...

Oh my goodness! You mean John Duncan is Ligon Duncan's brother??? The John Duncan who makes 180,000 at Ligoneir who is part of the coverup? The one that tried to tell Jen of Jen's Gem's over the phone that they did this because Frank is not a Christian? That John Duncan?

Boy, the reformed world is a tidy little place. John Duncan is also thought to be the poster passerby on Franks site demanding the name of his pastor and elders! Now we know why he asked for that AFTER they filed the lawsuit....they really just wanted to find Frank to serve him papers!

He is also thought to be the poster, hopeful, on Jen's site. (ISP guys)

Is his brother as sneaky and hypocritical as he is? I sincerely hope not. But John has sold his soul for 180,000/yr.

At 12:35 PM, Anonymous D. Carlson said...

In case you hadn't heard Sherrie Sproul-Dick has divorced Tim Dick. Since Tim's no longer in the family RC Sproul also kicked Tim to the curb. Tim's been fired from Ligonier Ministries. That's fired as in fired for real this time. He won't be hired back again in some other position like the last time he was fired as CEO but rehired in some other outrageously high paid position. No one who still works at Ligonier misses him. The only thing anyone wonders is what took RC so long?

At 1:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The only thing anyone wonders is what took RC so long?"

There's a lot more to be wondered about than just that. The biggest thing we've wondered about is what was R.C. thinking when he appointed Tim as President? Anybody who knows Tim knows he's a few strawberries short of a picnic, and he's as personable as a porcupine. Being the President of Ligonier requires intelligence, good interpersonal skills, morals, and some common sense. Tim never had any of those things, even before all the brain damage he suffered from his heart attack.

We were sad to hear about Tim and Sherrie going their separate ways. Tim should have really known better than to take up with another woman. He'd been living on Easy Street for a long time, all thanks to marrying into a rich family. Sherrie divorced Tim in October 2009. Tim married the new squeeze less than a month later. We never knew Tim to have a work ethic. Somehow he'll now have to learn how to work for a living.

At 1:14 PM, Anonymous Luke 16:18 said...

"Tim married the new squeeze less than a month later"

Tim now lives in ADULTERY with this new woman according to the words of Jesus!

Luke 16:18

At 8:58 PM, Blogger Cracovian Crusader said...

Can one believe ANYTHING one hears and reads in this United States since WWII?? Why would ANY single man be spared a struggle with Lust as long as no actions follow? Does anyone expect this man to be a saint? Why is his profession/confession viewed with suspicion/cynicism? The answers are clear and require no verbal articulation. I would say: Get thee behind me, satan!


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